the big HOWARDFORUMS.COM users AMR topic

Raoul Koning · 24th June 2006, 00:49

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AMR is an function enabeld only in rogers phones. We got some request from a user that asking about it.

Anyway we found the variable, and AMR is now available for ALL W810 phones, for ANY firmware version.

simms · 24th June 2006, 01:18

This is a great development! Thanks Davinci!

AMR changes the error correction between areas so the call is maintaned in weak areas... all w810s can have this feature enabled, but only Rogers locked phones had it before..

And now we can all have it with the new FW too, R4DB005

simulator · 24th June 2006, 15:03

THere's no new main file for US users. Can I just update the fs file, or should I wait?

simms · 24th June 2006, 17:42

Here's a def'n by Paco of Hofo:

AMR (Adaptive Multi-Rate)
AMR is a speech coder standard introduced by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP), a partnership project of various standards organizations, developed to preserve high speech quality under a wide range of transmission conditions. The theory behind AMR is to lower the codec rate as the interference increases, thus enabling the application of more error correction. The AMR codec is also used to harmonize the codec standards amongst different cellular systems.

Paco · 24th June 2006, 18:11

Isn't the main for US W810_R4DB005_MAIN_HN.DVT

Quote:

Originally Posted by simulator

THere's no new main file for US users. Can I just update the fs file, or should I wait?

simulator · 24th June 2006, 19:37

sorry - didnt realize 16.3 did it automatically. i was looking at the ftp site. im flashing it now w main and america1.

roops1967 · 25th June 2006, 14:11

not sure yet but i think the amr feature has fixed the notorious dropped call issues on my w810. would using your client to just enable amr use a credit? i had used 2 credits cos the first i forgot to enable amr, duh

JCR · 26th June 2006, 02:10

Hi simms, im new around here and i think you can help me. I have flashed my w810i with the latest firmware from davinci (W810_R4DB005_MAIN_HN.DVT and W810_R4DB005_FS_AMERICA2.DVT) with their newest client and selected the ENABLE AMR feature. The flashing process was ok but when i check the configuration it stills saying EFR FR and HR. I have lost 2 credits cos i first flashed the phone selecting only the advance options to enable the AMR feature and it works like if i was selected also the finalization option(enable AMR seems to drain one credit just like if you select the finalization option

) and when i turn on the phone i get "configuration error, please check with your....bla bla bla" and the second time i flashed the main file first and the FS at the end togheter with the finalization and advanced options to enable AMR (obviously i opened the advanced options button and select ENABLE AMR PATCH) and it works, now the phone is ok but its pretty much the same it was before i flash it (no AMR configuration

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms

This is a great development! Thanks Davinci!

AMR changes the error correction between areas so the call is maintaned in weak areas... all w810s can have this feature enabled, but only Rogers locked phones had it before..

And now we can all have it with the new FW too, R4DB005

arcane613 · 26th June 2006, 14:12

well, i did the flash, selected flash files + AMR + finalization for my first run.. noticed amr did not go, so i reselected jus amr and finalization and it worked like a charm.. so i needed 2 credits to get the new f/w + AMR basically is what i'm sayin...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GsMen

AMR is an function enabeld only in rogers phones. We got some request from a user that asking about it.

Anyway we found the variable, and AMR is now available for ALL W810 phones, for ANY firmware version.

not true. i originally had R4CK003 installed on my phone which i got from eBay, SiliconCity was the store IIRC. It had China f/w on it, dont recall which exact versions.. i had AMR installed and running, so that means it was on more phones than jus Rogers branded phones. my lang's were English + Chinese only. My manual is matching for the old F/W too, but cant find a version number as reference...

Paco · 26th June 2006, 17:07

Can someone clarify for me: Can AMR (using 16.3) be enabled on any firmware version or just R4DBxxx?

arcane613 · 26th June 2006, 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paco

Can someone clarify for me: Can AMR (using 16.3) be enabled on any firmware version or just R4DBxxx?

theoretically i wouldnt see why not. i think the main stipulation is that u utilize client 16.3 to be able to enable it.

(i believe i had to use 2 credits to get my phone flashed + enable AMR)

i could be wrong tho, but i definetly do not see why not, myself had it on R4CK003 out of the factory, Rogers phones r R4CE012 f/w based.. so it does seem fine for older f/w.

now, i'm using a W810i, but i dont forsee there being implications on other models...

roops1967 · 26th June 2006, 23:41

just noticed after using 2 credits amr still does not show enabled on my fone!! this is what it says under 'service info' -> 'configuration'...

IMEI xxxxx xxx-
xxxxxx-x-xx

EFR FR HR

SAT on

GSM850 GSM900
GSM1800 GSM1900

C: 49 P: 1

KRH information
BD30519J14

what is the 'C: 49 P: 1' ??

JCR · 27th June 2006, 05:12

Same as arcane613, just bought another credit (oh my, 20 euros ouch!!!

) and select just finalization and advanced features and bingo.....AMR is now active and it really works good

. But i think 20 euro is quite expensive, i think the guys of davinci should specify the real cost for upgrading and enabling the AMR feature or maybe is a kind of bug of their newest client release?. Who knows....

arcane613 · 27th June 2006, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by roops1967

just noticed after using 2 credits amr still does not show enabled on my fone!! this is what it says under 'service info' -> 'configuration'...

IMEI xxxxx xxx-
xxxxxx-x-xx

EFR FR HR

SAT on

GSM850 GSM900
GSM1800 GSM1900

C: 49 P: 1

KRH information
BD30519J14

what is the 'C: 49 P: 1' ??

did u ONLY select AMR and Finilazation?

i dont kno what C:49 P:1 is either, heh,

oh, and i remember reading somewhere, after i tried flashing the first time.. cus i was like wth, no amr? heh, i checked the box......but i'm pretty sure i came across somewhere on here, or in a readme or somewhere (i forget) sayin that enabling amr cost a credit...

Paco · 27th June 2006, 15:57

The AMR feature is like a toggle setting. The latest flash files have it enabled, but advanced settings are done last. In arcane 613's case, he did this: "flash files + AMR + finalization". So what happened is that the flash files enabled it, but since he choose AMR in advanced, that disabled it.

If you are flashing R4DBxxx, and you want AMR, do NOT enable the advanced option. If you just want to enable AMR on the firmware you have and are not flashing the phone, than you do use the AMR advnaced option.

roops1967 · 27th June 2006, 19:05

ouch!! i had wasted 2 credits an still no amr cos i reversed it each time, damn damn!!!!

thnx for the replys

simms · 27th June 2006, 22:49

AMR can only be set when ONLY the advanced checkbox is checked. NOTHING ELSE. No FW, No Main, no Finalization.

I've been trying to talk to GsMen about it but he's been very busy lately..

Paco · 27th June 2006, 23:05

Not entirely correct. I turned on and off AMR during a CDA change and with Finalization.

Quote:

Originally Posted by simms

AMR can only be set when ONLY the advanced checkbox is checked. NOTHING ELSE. No FW, No Main, no Finalization.

I've been trying to talk to GsMen about it but he's been very busy lately..

arcane613 · 28th June 2006, 04:15

thx for future reference.

agon123 · 11th July 2006, 06:38

I'm new to ALL of this, so I'm confused about the procedure if i don't want to flash my phone (have R4CK003). Can i active AMR without flashing? If so, what are the steps and does it take a credit to do this? I didn't think you could do anything to the phone without hitting the Flash button.

While I'm at it, i'll ask basic questions that my Searching hasn't helped out. Why are there 2 Americas FS files?! Which one do i use with my W810 if i have Cingular? Where can i find a list of improvements/changes associated with each Firmware?
I have had reception issues with my W810 since day one, and SE says it's because the firmware for Cingular hasn't been tested yet. They say it's NOT the phone. Any takes on this? Thanks

LZF · 11th July 2006, 10:28

Before I unbranded my Vodafone W810i with R4CK003 EU3 the AMR setting was enabled in my phone. I read here I must not activate te AMR option in the client before flashing so I didn't do that.

But after the flash the AMR setting was gone.

I don't feel like to flash it again and waste another credit just to get AMR back.

Any options to still get AMR setting on again?

The debranding itself was perfect, so ofcourse thanks for that part already hehe.

FireMan · 11th July 2006, 19:56

Hi,

I flashed my W810i with client 16.3 to america2 (thanks zoyonee for the tips!!!).
The flash procedure was fine, finished in 5:06min and my phone is working great!
I finally got my phone with desired language. Keep the great work guys!

Just one strange thing: I checked 'Finalization', 'Advanced' and 'AMR patch-Enable AMR' in advanced settings. But my phone still without AMR (only EFR FR HR at firmware info).

It does really take 2 credits to make the procedure (one to flash and other to enable AMR)?

Regards.

Kakashi · 14th July 2006, 04:17

Where do I go to see all these information on my phone?

IMEI xxxxx xxx-
xxxxxx-x-xx

EFR FR HR

SAT on

GSM850 GSM900
GSM1800 GSM1900

C: 49 P: 1

KRH information
BD30519J14

alzone · 14th July 2006, 04:34

Assuming you have a K750i - does this work with 810?...

Do this (what you are looking for is in one of the menus that appear after the inputs):

>*<<*<*
>,< represent your joystick direction
* represent the star button

Don't worry about what's on the screen ; just do the inputs as shown. It'll get you there!

raymonium · 9th August 2006, 08:31

this may sound stupid...

but can older phones, ie: k750 or w800 use the AMR feature?

24th June 2006, 00:49	#1
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27th June 2006, 05:12	#13
JCR Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2	AMR Succesfully enabled!!!!! Same as arcane613, just bought another credit (oh my, 20 euros ouch!!! ) and select just finalization and advanced features and bingo.....AMR is now active and it really works good . But i think 20 euro is quite expensive, i think the guys of davinci should specify the real cost for upgrading and enabling the AMR feature or maybe is a kind of bug of their newest client release?. Who knows....

14th July 2006, 04:34	#24
alzone Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 18	Assuming you have a K750i - does this work with 810?... Do this (what you are looking for is in one of the menus that appear after the inputs): ><<<* >,< represent your joystick direction * represent the star button Don't worry about what's on the screen ; just do the inputs as shown. It'll get you there! Last edited by alzone; 14th July 2006 at 06:07..

9th August 2006, 08:31	#25
raymonium Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 17	what about k750 or w800? this may sound stupid... but can older phones, ie: k750 or w800 use the AMR feature?

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24th June 2006, 01:18	#2
simms Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	This is a great development! Thanks Davinci! AMR changes the error correction between areas so the call is maintaned in weak areas... all w810s can have this feature enabled, but only Rogers locked phones had it before.. And now we can all have it with the new FW too, R4DB005

24th June 2006, 15:03	#3
simulator Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3	THere's no new main file for US users. Can I just update the fs file, or should I wait?

24th June 2006, 17:42	#4
simms Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	Here's a def'n by Paco of Hofo: AMR (Adaptive Multi-Rate) AMR is a speech coder standard introduced by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project (3GPP), a partnership project of various standards organizations, developed to preserve high speech quality under a wide range of transmission conditions. The theory behind AMR is to lower the codec rate as the interference increases, thus enabling the application of more error correction. The AMR codec is also used to harmonize the codec standards amongst different cellular systems.

24th June 2006, 19:37	#6
simulator Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 3	sorry - didnt realize 16.3 did it automatically. i was looking at the ftp site. im flashing it now w main and america1.

25th June 2006, 14:11	#7
roops1967 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 19	not sure yet but i think the amr feature has fixed the notorious dropped call issues on my w810. would using your client to just enable amr use a credit? i had used 2 credits cos the first i forgot to enable amr, duh

26th June 2006, 17:07	#10
Paco Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 39	Can someone clarify for me: Can AMR (using 16.3) be enabled on any firmware version or just R4DBxxx?

26th June 2006, 23:41	#12
roops1967 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 19	just noticed after using 2 credits amr still does not show enabled on my fone!! this is what it says under 'service info' -> 'configuration'... IMEI xxxxx xxx- xxxxxx-x-xx EFR FR HR SAT on GSM850 GSM900 GSM1800 GSM1900 C: 49 P: 1 KRH information BD30519J14 what is the 'C: 49 P: 1' ??

27th June 2006, 15:57	#15
Paco Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 39	The AMR feature is like a toggle setting. The latest flash files have it enabled, but advanced settings are done last. In arcane 613's case, he did this: "flash files + AMR + finalization". So what happened is that the flash files enabled it, but since he choose AMR in advanced, that disabled it. If you are flashing R4DBxxx, and you want AMR, do NOT enable the advanced option. If you just want to enable AMR on the firmware you have and are not flashing the phone, than you do use the AMR advnaced option.

27th June 2006, 19:05	#16
roops1967 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 19	ouch!! i had wasted 2 credits an still no amr cos i reversed it each time, damn damn!!!! thnx for the replys

27th June 2006, 22:49	#17
simms Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	AMR can only be set when ONLY the advanced checkbox is checked. NOTHING ELSE. No FW, No Main, no Finalization. I've been trying to talk to GsMen about it but he's been very busy lately..

28th June 2006, 04:15	#19
arcane613 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 6	thx for future reference.

11th July 2006, 06:38	#20
agon123 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	I'm new to ALL of this, so I'm confused about the procedure if i don't want to flash my phone (have R4CK003). Can i active AMR without flashing? If so, what are the steps and does it take a credit to do this? I didn't think you could do anything to the phone without hitting the Flash button. While I'm at it, i'll ask basic questions that my Searching hasn't helped out. Why are there 2 Americas FS files?! Which one do i use with my W810 if i have Cingular? Where can i find a list of improvements/changes associated with each Firmware? I have had reception issues with my W810 since day one, and SE says it's because the firmware for Cingular hasn't been tested yet. They say it's NOT the phone. Any takes on this? Thanks

11th July 2006, 10:28	#21
LZF Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 7	Before I unbranded my Vodafone W810i with R4CK003 EU3 the AMR setting was enabled in my phone. I read here I must not activate te AMR option in the client before flashing so I didn't do that. But after the flash the AMR setting was gone. I don't feel like to flash it again and waste another credit just to get AMR back. Any options to still get AMR setting on again? The debranding itself was perfect, so ofcourse thanks for that part already hehe.

11th July 2006, 19:56	#22
FireMan Junior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7	Hi, I flashed my W810i with client 16.3 to america2 (thanks zoyonee for the tips!!!). The flash procedure was fine, finished in 5:06min and my phone is working great! I finally got my phone with desired language. Keep the great work guys! Just one strange thing: I checked 'Finalization', 'Advanced' and 'AMR patch-Enable AMR' in advanced settings. But my phone still without AMR (only EFR FR HR at firmware info). It does really take 2 credits to make the procedure (one to flash and other to enable AMR)? Regards.

14th July 2006, 04:17	#23
Kakashi Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	Where do I go to see all these information on my phone? IMEI xxxxx xxx- xxxxxx-x-xx EFR FR HR SAT on GSM850 GSM900 GSM1800 GSM1900 C: 49 P: 1 KRH information BD30519J14

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